28 Days Later (2002)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the final girl on 6th Avenue podcast. [00:00:23] Speaker B: My name is Carolyn Smith Helmer and I am 6 6th Avenue's very own final Girl. And today I thought, what better to talk about than 28 days later? If you're not familiar, there are three films in this series, 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks later, and then there's 28 Years later, which just came out. So I have not yet seen 28 years years later. But I have to tell you that 28 days later is maybe one of the greatest films about dystopian world. I would say very interesting. It was really one of the first of its kind to be this successful and produced on this level. And so, yeah, I think, I think that's what, you know, is fitting today. So let's head on over to our Bible, IMDb. And this film is a little long. I will tell you that it is one hour and 53 minutes. It's worth every single minute. But I did just want to give you that heads up. If you're someone who really loves a short, clean and tight one hour, 30 minute movie, that's not this 2002 release. It was rated R when it came out. Written by Alex Garland, directed by Danny Boyle, and starring Cillian Murphy, who everybody loves, and Naomi Harris, who I also happen to like. Four weeks after a mysterious incurable virus spreads through the United Kingdom, a handful of survivors try to find sanctuary. And it really is not that simple, as I'm sure you will uncover with us today. So our film opens with us finding out about an experiment that's taking place in the Cambridge Primate Research Center. And essentially this experiment is monitoring the brain activity of a chimpanzee or chimpanzees who are watching. Violent imagery. It appears to be things like societies basically descending into lawlessness and riots in the streets and cities on fire and mass evacuations and things that, you know, happen in times of either political instability or societal instability or things that happen in natural disaster, right? So that is what these chimps are watching. And of course, what would happen, animal rights activists, right, have to come in. They see this as their sworn duty in life. And they break into this research lab, right? And while they're in there, they see all these chimps and they are in cages or like being held. And, you know, they're still the ones that are watching the footage. And everything in this lab is very unsettled, right? Like everything is very angry and the tension is high. So they find that there's a scientist still in the Lab, they confront him and he is begging them to please not release these chimps because they're all infected with a highly contagious viru virus. And this virus, he refers to it as rage. So, you know, animal rights activists, they're not known for listening. They're really not most of the time. Excuse me, I'm really talking about PETA. And of course, one of them proceeds to open a cage, and when the chimp starts to run out of the cage, it attacks her, bites her and infects her her with this virus referred to as rage. So I guess they were all being given inhibitors while they were in captivity, but now that, you know, if they were to be freed, like, they, they don't have a way of doing that. Immediately after, we find out that 28 days has gone by and that she had spread this virus by attacking the others immediately, and subsequently they attack everyone else. And the virus has spread all the way across Great Britain. And then we see Cillian Murphy. He's laying in a hospital bed, he's hooked up to machines, he's naked, and he is confused. So he does what any reasonable person would do. And like I said, he's alone. So kind of scary. He gets up and he tries to, like, you know, he unhooks himself from everything and he goes to the door to try to see if he can see anyone else, even in the hallway. But the hospital has been like, essentially destroyed, right? Like, there's everywhere, it's in disarray. And he finds that he was in a room that was locked, but the key had somehow been left right underneath the crack of the door so that he could open it. [00:06:03] Speaker A: So he finds some scrubs for himself. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Wraps up his wounds, and again is still trying to find another person to make contact with. He's walking around this empty hospital calling out. No one is answering. He tries to use payphones, no dial tone. Like it's just him. And I have to tell you that one of my worst fears is being alone in a hospital. So I love to see that depicted. He soon makes his way out of the hospital and he. It's so scary. Like he's literally just the only person walking around the streets of London. Like pure societal collapse has occurred. And there is, you know, again, it looks like riots and evacuation happened. And all of the things that we, you know, would likely find in the event of like a end of the world situation is essentially what he's in. And he is the only person. [00:07:09] Speaker A: As he continues to walk around what, having. [00:07:12] Speaker B: Been to London before myself appears to be the entire city. He finds that there's, like, banknotes and money on the ground. And so he picks it up and he has a bag that he's carrying. I guess he thinks that this is going to be useful for him at some point, or maybe he just wanted the thrill of taking money that wasn't his. I'm not sure. But what's really interesting here about the way this is shot is that, you know, like, they're film. They're filming in locations like Westminster Bridge and Oxford street and Piccadilly Circus. And these are normally places that are, like, super, super, super fucking busy. Like, outrageously busy. And so they actually had to close off certain sections of the streets on Sunday mornings to film these scenes where he's the only person. So, like, they usually had about, like, 45 minutes to close the streets so that they could film this. [00:08:13] Speaker A: And eventually. [00:08:16] Speaker B: He finds a, you know, a car. He tries to open it, open the door, and because there's literally no sound of any kind, because, again, there's no one there except for him, to his knowledge, the car alarm starts going off, which is obviously, like, the loudest thing he's ever heard since everything else is silent, right? So he walks over to what looks like a memorial wall or, like, a tribute wall, and he sees, you know, photos of people or, like, drawings of, like, families either looking for their loved ones or, like, their parents. You know, kids drawing things like, oh, mom and dad are dead, and how, like, they're seeking refuge and all these things. So after his long, busy day of walking around after having just gotten out of the hospital, he finds a church. Once he gets inside the church, he realizes that there has been an absolute massacre in this church. [00:09:15] Speaker A: Okay? [00:09:16] Speaker B: Like, Jim is perplexed, but he has not given up trying to reach contact with someone. So there's, like, hundreds of dead bodies right in this church. And so he's still calling out, like, hello, Like a dumbass. And of course they notice him. And he's like, wait, these people don't look right. He hears some pounding coming from a door in the church. So he goes and walks towards the pounding sound, which he finds out is actually the priest. And so when the door opens, finally, he realizes that this priest has also been infected. And he flees the church and tries to run away. And so there are infected people chasing after him. [00:10:11] Speaker A: While he's on the run, he is. [00:10:15] Speaker B: Being chased right by these, like, infected people who obviously want to kill him and infect him as well. And he is saved, miraculously. By two people who are wearing gas masks and have survived this somehow, this event, this, like, evacuation and attempted extinction event. And they are throwing, like, I don't even know, Molotov cocktails at these infected people and. And having them burn. And so they. They capture Jim. They escape the infected people by killing them and hide out together in a sort of, like, convenience store in, like, a train station or, like, a tube station. They take off their masks, and they get to know one another. And Jim is obviously, like, not in the mood for joking, but Selena and Mark, our two saviors here, are. [00:11:18] Speaker A: So. [00:11:19] Speaker B: They're asking questions about, you know, where did he come from? What's your name? And he's asking them what the happened. So they're kind of chatting about how, like, there's something in the blood of these people. And by the time that cities tried to evacuate, it was already too late. And, you know, riots were starting and blockades from the army were overrun, and it was just like an exodus that began. And they also talk about how there were infections reported on the radio the day before the evacuation of cases in New York and Paris as well, so indicating that this is not solely isolated to the UK Mark and Selena are trying very desperately to reason with Jim that there is no government right now to help. There's no tv. They don't have radio. They don't have electricity. They don't have anything. They have no army. They have nothing. So this is kind of what life is looking like right now. And they do tell Jim that he's actually the first uninfected person they'd seen in six days. So, you know, they're trying to reason with him about, again, the events that already happened. But Jim is also, at this point, like, well, I need to find my parents, because, like, I'll go find them, and then I'll come back. So you guys should let me out of this little, you know, street shop, and I'll go find my parents, and then I'll be back. Basically, Selena and Mark are now like, you can't go anywhere by yourself. You can only travel places during the day unless you don't have any other choice. And they agree that they're gonna take Jim tomorrow to find his parents. They do say that they're gonna find his dead parents, because I think it's, duh. Like, I don't know what else you would expect. They hold true on their promise. And the next day, when the sun starts to rise, the three of them travel on foot all the way out to his parents home and they find actually that upon arrival, shocker, they're dead. But actually they died by suicide. And they happened to be laying on their marital bed. They had taken a bunch of pills and drank alcohol in order to die in this manner. And they are together at least, which I assume is supposed to be endearing in some way, and are found holding a photo of Jim from when he was little. Jim takes the photo and on the back his parents wrote, Jim, with endless love. We left you sleeping. Now we're sleeping with you. Don't wake up. It's almost like they did it for themselves, not knowing that, you know, Jim would wake up from, you know, this, his incident that landed him in the hospital in the first place. So very, very sad. Selena does try to reason with Jim that like, hey, they died. You know, they died peacefully. Like, this is something that we should be grateful for. And Jim is like, well, I'm not fucking grateful. So then Mark is like, oh, yeah, well, trauma dump. I can one up you. You know. And then he tells the story about how him and his dad and his mom and his sisters and like all these people tried to go and buy their way onto a flight to get the fuck out of this place. But, you know, 20,000 other people had the same idea. So obviously that wasn't going to work. And you know, there was crowd surge, which is terrifying. And his sister and him lost grip of one another's hands. And he noticed that the ground was squeezed squishy where he was walking and soft. And he was just walking on bodies. And so, you know, there was just mass hysteria. And there were also infected people in the crowd of people that were all trying to get on this plane. And so he says that the only way out of this was to climb. And so he had to climb up bodies to. To get out. The three of them decide that they're gonna stay the night in Jim's parents house because it's just too dangerous to be out late. And so they sleep, but not Jim. Jim is like, no, I have to do some reminiscing right now on my parents and my family. So he lights a candle and starts to like, walk around the house and touch things like his mom's recipe book or photos on the fridge. And just memories, right, of his life and, and the good, the good times that him and his parents spent together, right? Like this is pretty normal, I would have to think. But it's the fact that he lit a candle, which is gonna be a big problem as Jim is, you know, reminiscing on these moments in his childhood, he's caught off guard because he's not expecting it. But since he lit that candle, there are some infected people nearby. They were actually the neighbors and they break through the back door and try to attack Jim. So Selena and Mark are on the case. They help kill the two infected people and save Jim. But in their defenses, Mark actually got bit on his arm. And so I'm sure you know what Selena has to do. She has to kill him because it is the right thing to do. It is the humanitarian thing to do. Jim and Selina have not been bitten. They are fine. And Selena lets Jim know that if this were to happen to him, she would do the same. She would put him out of his misery by, you know, by killing him so he didn't have to suffer with this virus. Now that, you know, a couple of infected people have found, you know, Jim and Selena, they know that more will be on the way and that they need to move quickly. So they both change clothes, finding clothes that are in Jim's parents house and head on back on foot to London. And, you know, they're walking the streets and they're just chatting and they're talking about how plans at this point are so pointless. And this is just, you know, what life looks like right now. And it's very bleak, right? They find while they're walking in the distance, there's an apartment building and someone had made like a flashing, you know, light, like a, like a signal lamp essentially, to draw attention to this one flat in this, you know, apartment building. Obviously to get up this, you know, to get to that flat, they have to take the stairs because there's no elevator, there's no electricity. So, yeah, they have to walk up the stairs. They do have to stop while they're on the stairs though, because like, Jim has very low blood sugar and unfortunately there's really not a lot they can do about that. But Selena has painkillers and Pepsi. So, you know, there's something. While they're talking, while they're taking a break, they hear some snarling sounds and they know that they are being followed. And there are infected people on the way. So these infected people are way fucking faster than Jim and Selena are. So they have to literally sprint up the stairs as fast as they can. And Jim can't keep up with Selina. [00:19:57] Speaker A: When they finally do get up to. [00:19:58] Speaker B: The top, they are trying to enter, you know, the actual flat that they were seeing the lights coming from. And turns out that there is a man up there, his Name is Frank. And Frank is a cab driver. He's the one who made this makeshift lamp. And him and his daughter Hannah are hunkered down in their apartment. And they are. Well, they were looking for other people, obviously, that were not infected. And Frank is a masterful killer of all things infected people. He has a gas mask and, you know, sk ski mask type thing, and he has a riot shield and he is ready to go to town. So they are inside the apartment together. They're having drinks. They are. You know, honestly, it looks like Frank and Hannah are just happy to be communicating with people that are not each other and are normal. [00:21:02] Speaker A: Selena and Jim decide that they're gonna spend the night there with Frank and. [00:21:06] Speaker B: Hannah and that, you know, this is kind of a. Not a bad. Not a bad setup for what we have right now, which is nothing. So come to find out, this apartment has no. They don't have running water, right? They don't have anything else, but they really don't have running water. And so it looks like Frank and Hannah have gone into everyone's apartment that they can and literally has filled up the entire rooftop of the building with buckets and bowls and like, laundry baskets and trash cans and things to catch water. But it hasn't rained for 10 days, so they actually, like, can't collect any water. You know, Frank admits to Jim finally, that, like, they're not going to be able to stay there. Like, they can't stay there because they need water and they need food and they need all the things that people need to survive and that. That this is just not going to work. But, you know, Frank plays a sort of like military radio broadcast. And the broadcast essentially is like, offering protection and is saying that there are soldiers, they're armed, and, you know, they have a blockade outside of Manchester that is offering the salvation from this infection that they're looking for. So Frank is like, well, I'm gonna get my kid out of here, so I'll definitely take Hannah. But the four of them agree to just travel together. And lucky for, you know, Jim and Selena, Frank has a car, right, because he's cab driver. So he has his cab. So they load up everything that they can, you know, food wise and ration wise that they need into the car. They all pile in. And now they don't have to travel on foot anymore, which is great. They decide that they're going to take the fastest route, which is not the route that Jim would like to take, take to get to this blockade, because the fastest route involves them going Through a tunnel. So tunnels are dark. They can't see what's going on. Not only that, but they don't know what's inside the tunnel. So when they do get inside, there are just, you know, infected people, dead people, cars crash cars, glass. And they have to kind of traverse this, like, large pile of people and car parts to get over it to get to the other side of the tunnel. When they do this, though, Frank ends up, like, totally stripping one of his tires. And they're like, hey, we have to change the tire to continue. But it is obviously the world's worst place to get a flat tire. So they all get out to change it, and, you know, they hear rats scurrying, and as soon as that happens, they hear infected people coming. Things are not looking good, thankfully. At what can only be described as slightly slower than NASCAR pit speed, Frank gets the tire changed. They drive away with literally not even a second to spare and make it out of the tunnel just fine. But they do have to stop for gas and for food. So they find a grocery store along the route, and they're like, yo, actual grocery store with actual food in it. And not just simply, like, you know, gas station food or treats or sweets or snacks, like, actual food. And they each grab a shopping cart and get what they can, right? Like, this is the first time they've seen actual food. So I would. I would do the same thing. I think anybody would when they later. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Stop to get gas. Somewhere along, like, the English countryside. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Jim decides he's gonna get out and go into this, like, I don't know, like a cheeseburger shop that's, like, connected to the gas station or near it, you know, like a little restaurant. And when he goes inside, obviously, it's just full of dead bodies and horrific. And. [00:25:38] Speaker A: He. [00:25:40] Speaker B: Gets the shit scared out of him, and so do I, because there is a, you know, a kid in there amongst all these dead people who is infected. And unfortunately, Jim does have to fight off this infected child with his bat. Selina asks him when he comes out of the, you know, the shop, like, hey, did you find anything in there? And he has to just say, no, we should get out of here, instead of telling her what he did. [00:26:07] Speaker A: The four of them leave and. [00:26:11] Speaker B: They drive. They're just driving to where they need to get to, right? But they do, along the countryside, find a little place to have a sort of picnic to eat, you know, some of their food together that they got from the grocery store, and they talk about how fresh it is and how good it feels to eat something that's not a candy bar for the first time. And while they're out there having this little picnic, they see horses that are running in the field and they're not infected at all. They are. They're totally fine. So the group is starting to get, you know, pretty optimistic about their chances of getting out of this thing. They have really, you know, the. The morale has totally shifted here. At this point. Selena and Jim start to have a conversation on a walk that they're taking about how, you know, from this day forward, you'll. They'll never read another book that is not a book that's already been released or watch a movie that hasn't already been released, or hear a song that hasn't already been released. Like, everything media related and entertainment related will all be things that already exist because there's not a way to make new things. And, you know, Selina, throughout this conversation, finally admits that staying alive is actually not as good as it gets. [00:27:44] Speaker A: They find a little, like, abandoned structure because obviously they're gonna need to spend the night somewhere. And they set up for the evening and they kind of are like, well, I think we'll just be safe enough out here. But, you know, you never know. Then it turns out that, you know, Selina has been able to sleep so well and so easily because she has an entire fucking pharmacy worth of pills in her backpack. So she gets those out and, you know, basically disperses them to anyone who wants them so that they can get a good night of fucking sleep, especially since they're sleeping outside. Frank decides that he's not going to partake, but Jim and Selina do. Hannah asks if she can have, like, a small portion of one of the pills. And at first Frank says no, but, you know, at the end there, he's finally like, okay, she can have a half a pill. Frank stays awake the whole night to kind of just like, watch over and make sure they don't get snuck up on. And they all get some really good sleep, especially Jim. Jim sleeps so hard. He slept through breakfast. And then, you know, the next morning they set off. They're listening to the radio in the car and, you know, the radio is still talking about this blockade that they're on the way to that's, you know, around the Manchester area. And the radio is saying, like, you know, the salvation is here. The answer to the infection is here. Like, we can protect you. We have food, all these things. So they're feeling pretty, you know, hopeful at this point that they're Gonna. They're gonna get there. As they approach in the car, you know, Manchester, they can see in the distance that the whole city is on fire. The entire entirety of Manchester is on fire because there are no fire crews to put it out. And they also hear, like, an explosion coming from the area. So, you know, odd, but they're starting to feel a little like maybe this wasn't the right idea since, you know, this was supposed to be where the Salvation was, and it's on fire. But they continue anyway to the blockade. And golly gee, wouldn't you know it, no one is at the blockade. It has been completely deserted, abandoned, or maybe was never a military blockade in the first place. Right? Maybe was just a way to trap people. We're not entirely sure. But what we do know is that what was advertised is not what was experienced at the end. And Frank is pissed, okay? He's trying to save his daughter. He's trying to take care of her. He drove all this way just for her. And there's nothing in his, you know, despair over the fact that they traveled all this way to find absolutely nothing. You know, Frank is sitting and thinking, like, what should we do next? Like, I don't understand what's happening. And, you know, he hears from above him that there is a crow. And this crow is on top of a dead body, an infected dead body that is on top of this, like, scaffolding with a metal gate underneath it. And Jim and Selina are off, right, doing their own thing, but Frank notices this and wants the crow to stop, like, making noise and to stop, you know, feasting, I suppose, on this body. So he stands up to walk over to the gate to, like, kind of make noise and scare the crow away. And when he hits the gate, a drop of blood falls from the scaffolding, from the infected body directly down into Frank's eye. So since we know that it's their blood that is, like, you know, the contaminant, Frank has unfortunately now been contaminated. So he stands up and he tells. [00:32:09] Speaker B: Hannah that he's sorry for losing his temper and that he loves her very, very much. [00:32:14] Speaker A: And, you know, Selena and Jim are catching on to what happened, and they're like, oh, shit, he's infected. What do we do? And they know that he has to die. And Frank also knows that he's gonna have to die. Then out of nowhere, there's, like, a sniper hanging out in the fucking brush across the. The roadway. And this person decides that they're going to shoot Frank until he's dead. In front of his daughter, which I understand is really hard and really, really sad to see. But the look of desperation in Frank's. [00:32:57] Speaker B: Eyes before he gets shot and in, like, the 10 to 22nd period before he actually experiences the rage virus, after the. The blood droplet has entered his eye. [00:33:10] Speaker A: Is even more heartbreaking to watch. [00:33:13] Speaker B: So. [00:33:16] Speaker A: Some. Some things have to be done for the greater good. [00:33:18] Speaker B: And this is just, unfortunately, one of those things. [00:33:22] Speaker A: So I'm sure you're imagining, okay, there were snipers, so the. The military must still be here at this blockade. You would be correct. There are soldiers at this blockade. So after, you know, killing Frank, the soldiers, they bring Jim, Selina, and Hannah to this, like, country house. And this house is under the command of a major. His name is Major Henry West. And upon arrival, they are, you know, kind of shocked in a way, like, okay, Frank was under the impression that. And was so devastated before his death because y' all were nowhere to be fucking found. But, of course, as soon as he got infected, like, y' all finally decided to help. Weird and incredibly frustrating, but a commentary on how things often work within government systems. Very reactive, almost never proactive. This house that they're in is absolutely gorgeous. And they actually have hot water, so, you know, they're able to take a shower, and they have clean sheets, clean beds. You know, everything that they have been lacking over time. So, you know, they really feel like things are starting to look up for them. Jim and Selena share a moment of tenderness when discussing Hannah. And, you know, the very unfortunate fact of the matter is that her dad is no longer around. [00:35:05] Speaker B: They want her to be okay, and they don't want her to have to be okay. [00:35:10] Speaker A: She was fine when her dad was alive, and now she's not. Jim and Selena share a kiss, and Selena leaves in in a sort of haste, I would say. So Jim goes out and is walking the grounds of this home, and he's talking to Major Henry West. And when he's talking to the major, they're talking about how, like, they heard the broadcast. And so, like, they knew they had to come here and find this because there was, they thought, a cure to this infection. And, you know, there's a brief moment of revelation where Jim is like, I understand that I'm very safe here, but I also understand that I feel a little bit duped in the sense that there is no cure. The major tells, you know, Jim all the security measures that are being taken with the house. Like, they're putting, like, trap wires and, like, explosives. Explosives in the yard. And making it as safe as they possibly can. And that secondary to their, you know, job to protect, which they don't seem to really be doing, they have another goal, which is. And responsibility, which is that they are to help rebuild. During this tour that the Major is giving Jim around the property. They go outside to find that these soldiers have been keeping an infected soldier. They were able to knock the soldier out after his infection, bring him to this property, and put a chain around his neck so that he is literally being treated like a dog. And he is infected, and they have no mercy to kill him. They want to keep him alive to essentially learn about him is what they say. But to me, that doesn't really seem like the case. That same evening, Hannah, Jim, and Selena have dinner with everyone on the property in this sort of, you know, ornate banquet hall. And, you know, for people who have no food, the fucking major is really, really bitching about the type and the quality of the food that they're being served. But that's okay. He asks Hannah at the dinner table. You know, I don't suppose that cooking is something that you are able to do or good at. Obviously. Her dad died in front of her eyes earlier that day, so she's really not in the mood to talk, and she's really not in the mood to talk about her cooking scheme skills. So Hannah, Selena, and Jim kind of just sit and observe the conversation at the table, and they're all just, like, very. It's hard to explain. The conversation at the table is bleak at best, but also seems out of touch with the severity of the situation, as if, like, they are somehow immune to this infection. The major tries to reason with everyone by saying, like, what this infection has shown us is that people are killing other people. And according to him, he's remembered people killing other people as far back as he can remember. So really that this is just a state of normality for them. But wouldn't you know it, there's an explosion outside, and people are shouting and floodlights are turning on, and everyone's leaving the table with their weapons because, you know, something's going down outside. There are infected people infiltrating the property. All the soldiers run outside, they set up shop, and they start to, you know, kill the infected people that are trying to come into the home or onto the property. And once they successfully do that, their job is to re secure the property to the state. It was prior to this attack. But instead, these men, and one in particular, are very, very interested in the sexuality of Selena. And I Suppose just the mere presence of a woman, that they are so aggressive with her that it. It actually appears as if they are going to rape her. Thank God Jim is there and stands up to these men and, you know, protects her. But, like, why are they dicking around and being disgusting, trying to have sex and against someone's consent, right, when they should be re. Securing the property so that they can all stay safe? But of course, all good things come with a price. And so the salvation and the refuge that Jim, Selina, and Hannah had been hoping for has a more sinister undertone. Jim and the Major sit down to have a drink together, and the Major is asking Jim, who have you killed? Because if you haven't killed anyone or anything, then you wouldn't be here right now. So Jim admits to the Major that, you know, when they were stopping for gas, he had to kill a boy, a child. And the Major was like, look, I get it. I mean, if you hadn't have killed him, then he would have killed you. So it's called survival. He then goes on to tell Jim that, you know, the reason. The real reason why they're there is because the Major promised his soldiers women. He promised them essentially, sexual slaves because they were, you know, beginning to believe that there was no future, and there was essentially no reason for their survival. And so in order to get them to believe in this future and. Or survival, they needed to be enticed with. With sex. So, yeah. He goes on to ask, what do nine men do in this case? You know, if they just think they're gonna die, they're not gonna fight. And so the broadcast that they put out was literally to lure women to the property because women are the key to them having a future. So Jim runs away, obviously horrified, and goes to find Hannah and. And Selina. And when he's doing this, they're making an attempt to escape, but obviously that's not going to happen. Some of the soldiers attack Jim and knock him out and then are basically holding him hostage, right? Like, they all have guns pointed at him, and they're arguing and they're saying, like, we need to get hold of this guy. He can't leave. While Selina and Hannah are just off to the side, like, terrified. So the Major tells Jim that he has a choice. He can either stay with the soldiers or leave. But regardless, Hannah and Selena are not leaving with him while Jim is being held captive separate from Hannah and Selena. You know, he's chained there with another guy. And they're talking about how across the Atlantic Ocean like, there are people watching the Simpsons and having dinner and sleeping next to their wives and going to work, and here they are chained to radiators just like, nothing to look forward to. And how the rest of the world is continuing on as normal, and that this whole virus has essentially been contained solely to the uk so they're essentially being quarantined. And, you know, this other soldier goes on to say that, like, there is no infection. This is just people killing people. [00:44:17] Speaker B: People. [00:44:18] Speaker A: That's all this is about. So two soldiers come in, and they're like, hey, time for y' all to go. Jim just now realizes that this other guy he's chained the radiator with mentioned the word quarantine because I guess his processing times are very, very, very slow right now. Essentially, what we're witnessing is the fact that one of the sergeants and Jim both refused to go along with the fact that they're going to hold these women hostage, you know, for slavery purposes, and they are to be shot. The soldiers take Jim and this other, you know, sergeant out into the woods with the plan to kill them, and they successfully shoot the other sergeant that they've imprisoned. But then they start arguing. And during this argument, Jim is able to escape in the woods. While, you know, Jim is hiding in the woods, he's on his back, and he looks up at the sky and he finds that there's a plane flying and he can see the contrails in the air. So, you know, he's starting to wonder. But back at the house, the major is, you know, attempting to go ahead and dress up, I suppose, and make, quote, unquote, more presentable or sexy. These two women that they've now enlisted into sexual slavery being Hannah and Selena, obviously, they're trying to put them into nicer clothes, and this is something that they do not want because they do not want to be touched. But in an order to protect Hannah, Selina throws herself into the mix. Hannah is a child. Selena is an adult. And so she really, really, really wants to protect Hannah. So she tells the guys that if, you know, we want to do right by you, you need to leave the two of us alone so that we can change into these, you know, nice dresses that you've provided for us. But we're not gonna do it until you leave, because it's polite. Once the girls are alone, Selena goes over to her medicine bag where she kept all those pills, the prescription pills and drugs that she had, and she grabs one and gives it to Hannah. And Hannah's like, are you trying to kill me. And she's like, no, honey, I'm trying to make you not care. The sirens go off as one of the soldiers comes in and is like, what the fuck are you guys doing in here? And now there's just panic over the fact that Jim was able to get out over the wall of their, like, contained zone that they've put up, and he's going off and sounding off this air siren. So once the Major and, like, some of these soldiers head on over to where the siren was sounding off, right? Because Jim is the one who was sounding off the siren. They're all looking for him because they know that he escaped. And so while one of the soldiers tries to get to, like, a higher point so that they can see more and try to find Jim to kill him, Jim actually kills one of the soldiers himself. So. [00:47:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:56] Speaker A: Jim has basically been pushed to the brink of chaos at this point, and there really is very little turning back once the Major finds out that, you know, one of the soldiers he brought with him is dead. You know, they made a lot of noise, and so now there are infected people trying to kill him. So luckily he has a gun. But it would be nice if he died at this point point. I would take joy in that. Jim runs and makes his way all the way back to the mansion, and with his newly acquired rifle that he took from the soldier that he killed, he goes over the top of, like, the barbed wire fence and shoots free the. The soldier, the infected soldier that was being chained outside of the home. The goal is with freeing this soldier that he will come through the rest of the property and infect and kill the remaining soldiers. Meanwhile, poor Hannah and Selina are, you know, beautifully dressed, but are being held captive in a sitting room, basically. And Hannah pontificates that it's possible that. That. That Jim is dead. And, you know, they're kind of just wondering in this despair, like, what are they gonna do? But as they're talking, the infected soldier that was chained up outside breaks through the glass door and attempts and starts attacking the soldiers that were holding both Hannah and Selina captive. And so, you know, Jim's plan is starting to work out. Hannah and Selina leave that room and try to not get infected as well. But they're met outside by two more soldiers who are asking, where the fuck are you going? And what's all the goddamn noise about? [00:50:01] Speaker B: Great question. [00:50:03] Speaker A: Meanwhile, this infected guy from outside that was chained up is still. Still running everywhere, trying to infect the whole house. And they're trying to keep you know, Hannah and Selina uninfected for as long as possible and hopefully forever, right? During this sort of orchestrated chaos that Jim has created throughout the property, he is able to successfully get back inside the mansion and kill another soldier along the way. Good for my man. He calls out from the staircase to tell Hannah to hide because there is an infected person coming to attack her. And she does. She evades this attack pretty, pretty well. Jim eventually finds his way into a section of the ceiling in the home where he finds Selina being held in a room with another soldier. And the soldier is talking to her about how, like, he's of kind to keep her safe, and, like, once this is over, they're going to get out and they're going to live a nice little life together. And Jim launches himself down from the ceiling into the room and attacks the soldier with such, like, malice and so aggressively, like, shoving his thumbs into this dude's eyes and, you know, killing him in just the most insane way that. To the point that Selena literally thinks that he is infected with the virus now, too. So she gets up and she, you know, grabs her weapon, and as he starts to get closer to her, he realizes that she thinks that he's infected and kind of pauses. And when he does that, the two of them, you know, decide to share a kiss. And Selena drops her weapon. So Hannah is also relieved. She walks in to find them kissing, and she's like, oh, my God, I thought he was attacking you. I'm so sorry. Then he looks at Hannah and he's like, wait, Selena? Is she stoned? And Selena's like, look, it's a really long story. I really don't want to get into it right now. So the three of them make their way down into the car. But in the car is the Major, and he's been hiding, and he's like, yo, you killed all of our. Our soldiers. You killed all of my boys. So the Major is in the backseat of the car. Hannah is in the front seat of the car, and she's driving, and she's not a good driver. And she drives over to. Closer to one of the infected people, and this infected soldier pulls the Major out of the car and, you know, is gonna kill him. Jim, unfortunately, did get shot in this process, but, you know. [00:53:07] Speaker B: It'S. They have to save themselves. [00:53:09] Speaker A: This is a game of survival, right? Another 28 days later, we get a short montage of Selina deeply caring in the most medical way she knows how for Jim's wound and, you know, his near death experience after having been shot in the stomach and losing a bunch of blood. And he wakes up in a cottage, like a remote home, essentially. And that's where he's been recovering and they've been staying. Right. So Selina, you know, does things like sewing, and Hannah is able to go outside and, you know, put down, you know, picnic blankets. And it's like a very safe place to be, seemingly. But at this time, there are, you know, of course, dead people and infected people lying all across the roads and the roadways, and they're just everywhere. And it's, you know, pretty much not possible to escape. But these people are literally dying of starvation with no one else to attack because they haven't found, you know, Jim, Selina and Hannah yet. After Jim wakes up and comes out to, you know, talk to Selena, Hannah runs inside and says that they're coming. And it's essentially a jet. There's a jet flying overhead, right? And so they all run outside with this. This humongous cloth like, banner that they've been making. And the banner spells out the word hello. They start jumping up and down, they're smiling, they are hoping to be rescued. And the plane just flies right over the top of them. And Selina looks back and says, do you think that he saw us this time, the pilot? And that's where the film ends. So that is 28 days later. And so now we have to ask ourselves, what did this all mean? Or really, what did our director and writer want to convey here? And this is one of those, you know, interesting times that doesn't happen very often, but does sometimes happen where we actually get a clear, pretty defined answer on this. And so what's interesting here is that according to, you know, the people who worked on the film, and, you know, even if you ask me what I think this is a pretty straightforward film. You know, they essentially wanted to. [00:56:16] Speaker B: This is not a zombie movie, by the way. Sorry, let me just start there. [00:56:20] Speaker A: This is explicitly not a zombie movie. And the reason why it's not is because zombies are typically portrayed as like, a supernatural type of being or entity. But this, you know, virus of rage in the film is like biologic. So it's not supernatural, so therefore it's not a zombie. And, you know, it's reported that both. [00:56:56] Speaker B: Danny Boyle and Alex Garland had really just wanted to convey very creatively, I. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Will admit that rage is something that. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Is inherent to the human experience, basically. And it's not a, quote unquote, physical infection or like a bacterial infection. Like, it's something that is innate and within all of us every single day. [00:57:30] Speaker A: Whether or not we. [00:57:33] Speaker B: We want that to be true. This is, you know, something that. [00:57:42] Speaker A: People don't often, I think, really consider, especially because, you know, there are many times where people will live their entire lives thinking, I'm not an angry person. I don't have the capacity to be angry or to experience anger. And unless you are extraordinarily disciplined and are able to control your every single emotion or feeling to the highest degree, which I do not believe to be possible, then you have the capacity to experience rage. [00:58:19] Speaker B: Now, rage and like anger, those are considered secondary emotions. So it's not a primary emotion. This is something that is caused by another feeling or supplemented by another feeling or triggered by another feeling. So this is just. [00:58:44] Speaker A: Essentially to convey to us that it's not an infection. Right? [00:58:50] Speaker B: But the world is an angry place. [00:58:53] Speaker A: And you can't escape it. And, you know, you can also apply this to things like social rage, right? [00:59:01] Speaker B: Like road rage. Road rage is an everyday behavior. For many, it is an aggressive behavior. [00:59:09] Speaker A: But it's not something that is rare. I mean, you can see it every. [00:59:15] Speaker B: Single time you get in the car. So really, it utilizes our. Our very existence and the emphasis in the film as well, from the soldiers about how, you know, I'm seeing what I would normally see all the time and for as long as I can remember, which is people killing other people. [00:59:36] Speaker A: And so that's. [00:59:39] Speaker B: This is no different. [00:59:40] Speaker A: Right? [00:59:40] Speaker B: It is depicted as a broader, like, social and societal type of rage. And it kind of implies to us that, you know, there was a rage present within society before this, you know. [01:00:03] Speaker A: Quote, unquote, virus broke out. [01:00:05] Speaker B: And, you know, throughout this presence, there almost had to be, like, an explanation for it. [01:00:15] Speaker A: And so the explanation for it would be that they are infected with a virus. Realistically, I don't know that rage needs an explanation. It is. [01:00:35] Speaker B: I mean, it's an emotion. It's definitely like a secondary emotion like we've talked about. And I don't know that there needs to be any type of, like, real. [01:00:47] Speaker A: Explanations for these things at times. Right. And it's usually never just one thing. It's usually multiple things. And so, like, the. [01:00:56] Speaker B: The definition of rage is intense uncontrolled anger that is an increased stage of hostile response to a perceived egregious injury or injustice. When I think about this, reading this, you know, this definition, the first thing to me that comes to mind is. [01:01:21] Speaker A: 9, 11. [01:01:24] Speaker B: And this film came out in 2002, so obviously that was pretty convenient timing and the rage and despair that people felt in the United States. [01:01:38] Speaker A: Over this event of 911 happening was. [01:01:43] Speaker B: One that I didn't know truthfully would ever be able to get past. And it also adds to. [01:01:57] Speaker A: The fact. [01:01:57] Speaker B: That people who are filled with rage will. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Will do things, right. [01:02:02] Speaker B: That, that they otherwise would not do. [01:02:06] Speaker A: Or will sometimes act in ways that, you know, are. I don't even know what the right way to say it is. They would like, try or believe that they are capable of doing things that are physically not possible to do. [01:02:25] Speaker B: And obviously being in a state of rage or around others that are outraged or enraged is a somewhat dangerous situation. And it's also reported. [01:02:44] Speaker A: And of course, like, I have an. [01:02:46] Speaker B: Article for this, I'll link it for you. There's a really interesting etymology section of the Wikipedia page of the this word. So if you're interested in things like that, like, I am, maybe this is something you want to give a quick read to. But it's reported that, you know, rage, or the people that experience rage feel high, high adrenaline levels. And they sometimes experience events in slow motion or have no rational thought or reasoning. And they are acting basically just rapidly upon their impulses. And, you know, the increase in the adrenal gland, like the output from that gland actually can and does raise endurance. [01:03:44] Speaker A: Dulls the sensations of pain. Right. [01:03:47] Speaker B: That people can feel and. [01:03:52] Speaker A: Increases their physical strength. [01:03:54] Speaker B: Like, this is genuinely a. [01:03:59] Speaker A: Studied and documented experience. However, we would sometimes refer to this as an adrenaline rush. [01:04:09] Speaker B: This is not the only situation in. [01:04:11] Speaker A: Which that can happen. But this would be something along those lines if you've ever experienced an adrenaline rush. It also is reported that, you know, obviously they're. They are able to act and react very violently, and they may often attack. [01:04:33] Speaker B: Until they have been incapacitated or the source of their rage has been eliminated. [01:04:46] Speaker A: They might also have increased heart rate. [01:04:49] Speaker B: They might be hyperventilating. [01:04:51] Speaker A: And they essentially. Psychiatrists have found that. [01:04:58] Speaker B: Rage is at one end of the. The anger spectrum and annoyance would be on the other end of the anger spectrum. [01:05:09] Speaker A: So they are two very like, distinct types of anger. I was actually able to find some of the production notes that I'll also link for you all. And I find this obviously very interesting because it is. It contains quotes from, you know, Danny Boyle and Alex Garland and, and I want to read you one thing that they've actually, that Danny Boyle actually is on the record with. [01:05:41] Speaker B: So he says, quote, the actual story. [01:05:44] Speaker A: Follows a group of survivors trying to. [01:05:46] Speaker B: Make their way to safety after the. [01:05:48] Speaker A: Virus has broken out of the laboratory. [01:05:50] Speaker B: And swept across Britain and possibly the world. Britain has been largely evacuated, which has led to a kind of apocalyptic landscape. [01:05:59] Speaker A: It was important to me to junk the idea of civil contingencies. A virus is something that you cannot necessarily put up a defense against. This particular virus was to be something so virulent and uncontrollable, something that can't be defended against because it's actually a part of us. At the present moment, there's no such thing as a psychological virus, but who knows what can happen? Just recently, two German scientists were able. [01:06:26] Speaker B: To create a totally synthetic polio virus. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Within a matter of years with materials bought over the Internet. [01:06:33] Speaker B: Whilst polio has a relatively simple genetic. [01:06:36] Speaker A: Structure, the knowledge is there to be able to create a more complex virus, like smallpox, for instance. It's a matter of time constraints rather. [01:06:44] Speaker B: Than technological and technical capability. Yeah, he's right. [01:06:55] Speaker A: Had there been civil contingencies inside of this, you know, film, I don't know that we would have had this masterpiece of today. And there's also other notes in here that say things about how, like, you know, the. The. Another premise of the film is that there are scientists that are trying to develop a cure for rage, which would be a suppressant drug, kind of like Valium. So it's interesting that they really like the take that a psychology, psychological virus is almost like, more terrifying, especially because it's not something that we can get rid of. And who knows if. If there even is such a thing as a psychological virus at this point, but there could be. And I don't know about you, but I don't really want to be part of that. One other thing I'd really like to talk about too, if you've seen this film or are interested in seeing this film, is the. The depiction of the people in the film and, you know, how their behaviors develop and how they execute on those. Those feelings and behaviors. And so one thing that they discussed. [01:08:26] Speaker B: That they took inspiration from were actual. [01:08:29] Speaker A: Like, there was an outbreak in the uk, unfortunately, of mad cow disease. [01:08:35] Speaker B: And. [01:08:37] Speaker A: You know, mad cow is one of those things that I think genuinely is terrifying. And I really, really, truly hope that I never experience or have anyone around me experience this, and I really would love it if no one ever experienced this ever again. But for those of you that don't know anything about mad cow disease, I will tell you that it is incurable. [01:08:59] Speaker B: And it is always a fatal, neurodegenerative disease of cattle. [01:09:05] Speaker A: And so some symptoms would include things like having trouble walking or like losing a lot of weight or just abnormal behavior. And eventually, as the disease progresses, like the cow itself can't even function normally. And mad cow is something that we still don't really know like a ton about. Right. Like, there's still not even a firm grasp on what the. In what the period of, like the true time period between infection and the onset of the symptoms are. So again, it's very, very odd. And there was, like I said, right, this, this break, this outbreak in the UK in the 80s and 90s, and God, basically what happened was they were practicing feeding meat and bone meals to calves, dairy cow calves, like every day. And within this meat and these bones. [01:10:24] Speaker B: Right, is a misfolded protein. This misfolded protein is called a prion. And so because they were eating the infected meat and bone meals that were provided to them, they were also developing this disease. [01:10:44] Speaker A: And actually they actually had like 4 million cows that were killed during the eradication program that they. [01:10:54] Speaker B: Instituted in the uk. [01:10:56] Speaker A: Four million cows, imagine. So you might be wondering, like, well, how does that impact humans? [01:11:03] Speaker B: Well, I will tell you. [01:11:04] Speaker A: And this is why it's so scary. [01:11:09] Speaker B: When it's spread to humans, it is believed to result in what's called variant Creutzfeld Jacob disease. And so this is basically transmitted to humans when they eat food that's contaminated with it. And so even though any kind of tissue from the meat could be involved, like, the highest risk would be from eating food like the brain, the spinal cord, or anything in the digestive tract. And even though we really have, like, basically no information to date, I. Prions are one of the most terrifying things in the world. Even though we have, like, almost no information to date on, like, the potential factors that could trigger this misfolded protein in the first place. 85 to 90% of human cases. [01:12:09] Speaker A: Are. [01:12:09] Speaker B: From idiopathic prion disorders. So, yeah, it's also really difficult to. [01:12:19] Speaker A: Diagnose. [01:12:22] Speaker B: The incubation period. [01:12:24] Speaker A: Right. [01:12:24] Speaker B: Because it's a prion, could be months to years. So this is overall terrifying, Absolutely terrifying. The symptoms that a human might experience when they're infected with Creutzfeld Jakob disease would be usually marked by changes in their mental capacity and abilities. But early symptoms would include things like impaired thinking, maybe insomnia, trouble speaking, or swallowing or coordination, or they may move in, like, sudden movements or move very jerky or have big changes in memory or personality or impaired thinking, and death usually occurs within a year. [01:13:16] Speaker A: Okay, so it's. [01:13:17] Speaker B: It's pretty much a set time frame for you. If you become infected with this another you know, source of inspiration was, I mean, for me, was something that I made a connection with almost immediately, but Ebola, right? Ebola virus, and if you don't know exactly what it is, it is a. Is defined as a viral hemorrhagic fever in humans and other primates caused by the Ebola virus. The symptoms typically start anywhere between two days and three weeks after infection. The first symptoms are typically fever, muscle pain, headache and sore throat, followed by vomiting, diarrhea, rash, decreased kidney and liver function, at which some people begin to bleed internally and externally, and on average kills about 50% of people that are affected with it. Honestly, the death portion is usually from, like, shock of fluid loss and usually happens pretty quickly, like within two weeks. There is an Ebola vaccine, just in case you were ever wondering or curious. And it's spread through direct contact with bodily fluids like blood. So you can really see that, you. [01:14:44] Speaker A: Know, here, where. [01:14:47] Speaker B: They have these chimps, these primates in a research lab, and they're infected with something and then their bodily fluid infects the bodily fluid of a human and so on and so forth, and there's not been any cases to date that we are aware of that have been proven to have been transmitted via air. So it has to be, you know, a direct bodily fluid contamination. What I find interesting about this film, and then comparing it to another film like the Happening, which has Mark Wahlberg in it and Zooey Deschanel in that film, there is a sort of virus or disease that causes humans to want to kill themselves. And that one is, if I recall, transmitted by, like, transmitted via multiple ways, but also mainly by the air. So this is not transmitted by the air. And the third source of inspiration, if you haven't made the connection yet, would be rabies. Rabies is also a virus and it causes encephalitis in humans and other mammals. And, you know, what's really scary about rabies to me, is that when presented with liquids to drink, typically, you know, if you have rabies, then that is, like, terrifying to you. You're panicked. When you're offered something to drink, symptoms usually include vomiting, nausea, uncontrolled excitement, loss of consciousness, confusion, inability to move parts of your body, fear of water, violent movement. And once these symptoms appear, the result is nearly, if not 100%, death. So, you know, looking at these viruses and thinking about the impact that they had on the UK being the mad cow disease, and also foot and mouth disease, or foot and hoof disease, which is not to be confused with hand, foot and mouth, because that's something that children get or some adults actually too. I guess I won't take that away from some of us. [01:17:14] Speaker A: But. [01:17:17] Speaker B: You know, the inspiration for these, these infected people and also what maybe the UK felt or went through during these times of crisis during like this eradication effort of the mad cow disease and infectious prions around, you know, hanging around is absolutely horrific. And so this film would particularly hit home for those of you in the UK who might have grown up there or might have, you know, pretty close experience with or vast knowledge of their history and their agricultural history, which I do not, but I can understand how this would be absolutely terrifying. And finally, when we talk about what one of the overall kind of questions is of this film, I will link for you a an article written by Deep Focus Review. And it's really interesting because we're really examining what is civilization. And whenever Jim and the Major were talking and the soldiers were speaking, the one thing that they made sure to comment on was the fact that in terms of survival, these infected persons are not going to survive because they do not have the capacity to build infrastructure. They do not have the capacity to create any sort of like agricultural resources. And so for themselves, like they will disappear eventually because they are not able to survive in the way that other humans are able to survive. And I think that's a really interesting point. We don't know how long it will take them to survive. [01:19:05] Speaker A: But. [01:19:08] Speaker B: On the other hand, in this, in this context, it's almost that like just the mere infrastructure is not enough. And human beings being civilized actually mainly comes from the human capacity to have empathy. And these people in their infected, rage filled bodies are not able to have the capacity for empathy and are therefore not able to be civilized in the way that we as a human society today would define civilized. And it's also interesting because when you look at the idea of civilization or you just think about the idea of civilization, it's almost this like, security blanket. Like we often define going to remote places like being out of civilization and not being near civilization. And that's sometimes a scary thought. And I will admit to you that I also sometimes am frightened of that idea. So this idea of civilization is almost like a way that people feel safer and we get like a sense of that quote, unquote, return to civilization in a way when we see at the end of the film that Hannah and Selena and Jim have, you know, taken refuge in this countryside home and like Selina is sewing, right, which is not an activity that you would typically be doing if you were fighting for your survival. And so we get a glimpse of that, you know, near the end. And what's really funny that I really didn't think of until recently is the fact that they chose not to spell out SOS with the fabric that they were sewing together for their. Their sign for help. They didn't choose help or sos they chose hello, which is, like, more polite and is not really like a demand. It's almost a plea. And that is a gesture of kindness. So, again, having that capacity for empathy, being part of what it means to be civilized and humanly civilized is evident here at the very end. Do they get picked up by that jet? I have no idea. I have no idea if that pilot saw them or not. That's for us to think about. And the last thing I kind of want to point out, which may not have been super important to all of you or important to, or evident really on a first watch, is the dynamic between Selena and Jim. Jim, throughout the entire film is basically not. Not violent in any way, and becomes violent at the end of the film in order to, you know, both survive, really, and. And be with Hannah and Selena. It was for their. All of their survival. And Selena at the beginning of the film is the one who is violent and filled with, like, not rage, but with this, like, tenacity and ferociousness of survival at all costs. And very independent. And she's thinking always about how she's going to make it, but not who around her is going to make it. Her savagery at the beginning is shown so that we can see throughout the film that her development becomes more civilized. Jim, on the other hand, remains what we would consider civilized all the way up until almost the end of the film, when in what I would consider an act of desperation, turns to this type of savagery, which illustrates to me as a viewer that, again, this is something that we humans have the capacity to do, especially in points of desperation. [01:23:46] Speaker A: And in times of need. [01:23:48] Speaker B: But it also showcases to me that Selena's initial state of being, where everything was like all or nothing, it was. [01:24:03] Speaker A: Her against the world. [01:24:04] Speaker B: She trusted no one really was not going to help her in any way in the end, because had she not come to trust Frank and Jim and Hannah, there really would. We don't know what the outcome would have been for her. And it likely would not have been an outcome at all. Like she likely could have ended up dead on her own. And so her ability to kind of find herself back into this way of behaving in a civilized manner shows and demonstrates that that is necessary for survival. So I thought those were two very interesting character arcs and wanted to just point those out before we go. But I think I've said enough today so I want to wrap this up and say thank you all for listening. I really hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I enjoyed making it. If you are feeling, you know, extra nice and helpful, I would love it if you would check me and many of my other colleagues out@morbidly beautiful.com you can find any horror in any way, shape or form in different media, you know, different media outlets in terms of writing or speaking. In terms of podcasting. You can find film reviews. 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